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New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:28 pm

Hello.
i Live in the Wakefield/Ossett area, and have a 2005 Carry.
Im looking for two new tyres.
A lot of places dont stock em!.
My local tyre fitting centre in Ossett can get me some.
Thay call them buget tyres.
There "buget" tyres will cost me £58.20 each :shock:
Anyone know a better place to get tyres fitted in the Wakefield area at a tad cheaper?

Cheers.
Derek.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:58 pm

Hello mate,
That price is well over the top for a budget tyre.
A standard size carry tyre has as much rubber as an elastic band!!!!!!!!!
I pay far less than that,shop around you will find cheaper.
What you will get now are loads of replies about safety,tire wear etc.
Ignore all of that,you pays your money and takes your choice.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:05 pm

"What you will get now are loads of replies about safety,tire wear ect"
I know what you mean about tyre wear !!
i've done 25,000 miles from new.
The centre of both my front tyres have loads of tread left on.
But the edges (both inside and outside) are as bald as my chxxxin head.!
I'll shop around a bit.
Cheers .
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:26 pm

[quote="wufer"]
The centre of both my front tyres have loads of tread left on.
But the edges (both inside and outside) are as bald as my chxxxin head.!
I'll shop around a bit.
Cheers .
Derek.[/quote]

Hello again mate,
I did quick search on the world wide wait {internet} you should be able to get "budget tyres" for 40 quid....ish or less.
The other things all of the armchair experts will spout about are tyre pressures/tracking blah blah blah.
But I will assume you know all of that,and have heard it more times than you even care.
Be lucky.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby alanbirt » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:27 am

[quote="brunel"] That price is well over the top for a budget tyre.
................ you pays your money and takes your choice.
The other things all of the armchair experts will spout about are tyre pressures/tracking blah blah blah. [/quote]

Again, I agree with 'brunel' - tyres come in a wide range of prices and with an extensive series of claims about tread-patterns, lengthy expected mileages, extra safety in icy/wet weather, etc, etc. However, it is individual choice about paying much more for a well-known branded tyre, or perhaps one-third for a budget version.

I'm surprised 'wufer' is having some difficulty in obtaining suitable tyres - the Suzuki Carry size is a common one. At the time I replaced mine some two years ago, I was given quotations for six different makes, ranging from *GBP34 (including fitting, balancing, new valve, etc) to nearly three times that price for genuine Yokohama replacements. This was from an Easy Anglian tyre supplier and not a national firm. Certainly, GBP58 is expensive for what is alleged to be a budget tyre. I've used my budget tyres for two seasons now and they are still in reasonably good condition so I am 'winning' with the budget tyres. My original Yokohamas lasted four seasons - if my budget tyres only give me three seasons then I shall have certainly gained on the deal. For further contributions about tyre wear on this forum, see this thread:-

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8280

Again, as 'brunel' implies, fiddling about with tyre pressures to an exact psi, paying frequently for tracking checks/adjustments, and similar tactics I find are not worth the fuss and expense. If one gets good service from budget tyres, then use that make again; if not then either try another budget tyre-maker or pay extra for a well-known branded set. It's just personal choice.

(* I'm in NZ at present and NZ keyboards do not have the pound sign ! But it's too much fuss to go to the character map)
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:03 am

Cheers .
One of the problems is, when you try to find tyres in the net,thay ask you for the "profile"
Well i dont know what to put in for that. :?


Cheers
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby IanL » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:59 am

wufer wrote:One of the problems is, when you try to find tyres in the net,thay ask you for the "profile"
Well i dont know what to put in for that.


If your tyres are marked 155/80R13 (which is, I think, standard for the Super Carry), the width is 155, the aspect ratio or profile is 80 and the rim diameter is 13.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:42 pm

[quote="wufer"]Cheers .
One of the problems is, when you try to find tyres in the net,thay ask you for the "profile"
Well i dont know what to put in for that. :?


Cheers
Der[/quote]


Hi mate,
Look at the tyres fitted to your van.
On the sidewall you see the profile/ratio it will be after the width size ie 155/80 the last figure is the rim size this was 13" as bog standard.

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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:13 pm

Cheers .
My size taken from the tyre is, 155R13C 85/83 N 6PR
So im thinking the profile is the 85/83.

Cheers .
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby brunel » Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:11 pm

[quote="wufer"]Cheers .
My size taken from the tyre is, 155R13C 85/83 N 6PR
So im thinking the profile is the 85/83.

Cheers .
Derek.[/quote]

Hello mate,
Look at all four tyres.
First figure for bog standard carry would be 155 thats the width.
Second figure would be 80 thats the aspect ratio.
Third figure would be 13 thats the rim size.
Now just to chuck a spanner in the works its not unknown for the second and third figure to get changed around.
Some tyres have this in large lettering,some in small look all around the tyre.
If you know that these are the standard tyres fitted to the van details will be in your owners handbook.
If all else fails drive it into a local fitting centre,and mutter these words "excuse me mate what ratio are these tyres".............followed by "cheers mate"{as you drive away}
That always works,trust me.
Keep us all informed we will try to help.

Ps. just to make things even more complicated I have 175/50/13R fitted to alloys on my van.

Regards.


Pps Thats the cockney way of dealing with a problem.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby alanbirt » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:14 pm

'wufer', take note of what 'IanL' says: following your query of 10:03am, he replied promptly at 11:59am.

'IanL' has many years of experience with all types of Suzuki, he has an extensive personal library of information, he is now retired and gives the various Suzuki threads much of his time, and he is invariably accurate in his statements (over two-and-a-half THOUSAND postings in the Suzuki threads). If he doesn't know about a particular point, he says so. Just look at samples of his numerous postings for confirmation of this.

As 'IanL' has said, the tyre for the Carry is 155/80R13 and I confirm this - and it clearly states this information in the handbook ! Therefore the figure for the tyre-profile you need to quote is '80' (eighty).

Do take into account that if you buy tyres as "supply only" via the web, you will probably have to pay carriage as an extra and you are left with the problem of fitting them and then balancing the wheels or else paying to have this done - the total cost might then be more than your local tyre establishment 'supply & fit' service.

As 'brunel' has indicated, you ought to be able to get budget tyres for about forty pounds or so, including fitting.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby steamydave » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:23 pm

Hi,

I have just booked my van in for a service/pre MOT. I will need to replace one of the fronts due to the inner edge wear as normal. I'll let you know what the price of the tyre was once it has been done, but I would be looking in the £40 range.

Because my tracking has always been correct but I still get tyre wear, last new tyre we deliberately mis-adjusted the tracking - if I recall, I am slightly towing out now. From a quick look, this may have solved the problem on the last of the new tyres. It still appears to have some tread on the very edge of the inside. We will see better when the van is up in the air. Because the old tyre was already worn (about to be replaced), its hard to tell if we have made progress on it. I suspect the right hand side will need an extra tweak.

Please note these are very slight changes each time so as not to affect the safe running of the van.

I'll let you know any results I find as the new tyre beds in.

Dave
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:48 pm

Cheers boys.
All sorted.
A tyrehouse in Ossett has quoted £42 for each tyre, fitted and balanced. :D
Get em fitted tomorrow.

alanbirt
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Out of interest, where in the handbook did you see the profile as 80.(what page)
I can only see 155R13.
No big deal, but its bugging me.

Cheers.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby IanL » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:07 pm

wufer wrote:...Out of interest, where in the handbook did you see the profile as 80.(what page)
I can only see 155R13..


80 is the default profile if none is quoted.

Thus, for a Vitara, 195R15 means 195/80R15.
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Re: New tyres for 2005 carry,

Postby wufer » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:27 pm

Ok thanks Ian.

Anyway ,fitted tomorrow.

Cheers.
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